(We Are Change LA, debunked)
This morning , in disgust, I deleted one of my subscriptions on You Tube. I have been promoting a You Tuber by the name of “Doc.” Now Doc is is pretty good at researching all about the New World Order crowd, but like most, in the “Truth Movement,” stops short of good research, when they try to lump Catholics into their conspiracy theories. Doc, a college student, and a good researcher, hasn’t learned the phrase gratuitous assertion. When it comes to a bit of juicy anti-catholic slander; who needs facts, or evidence?
The gratuitous assertion today was that the Pope is sitting in at the United Nations. Long way from the Vatican to New York. Instead of getting into all that, I’ll get into what is behind that, and go straight to the most popular ant-catholic lie; the fake Jesuit Conspiracies.
The Jesuit order
The proper name of the Jesuit Order is the Society of Jesus. The Society of Jesus was founded 1534, in Paris, by St. Ignatius of Loyola. St. Ignatius originally founded to order as The Company of Jesus. The order became popularly none has Jesuits as a criticism for using the name of the Lord too much. Over time, the Society of Jesus, adopted the name Jesuit, as a kind of back handed compliment.
Today, the Jesuits, have about 19,000 members, internationally. The order is divided into 91 provinces, each with a provincial superior. The provinces are grouped into 10 assistancies, headed by and assistant to the Father General in Rome.
On Jan. 19,2008, Fr. Adolfo Nicolas, was elected Father General of the Society of Jesus.
Because I intend to address the issue later on; here are the vows taken by members of the Society of Jesus.
I, (name), make my profession, and I promise to Almighty God, in the presence of his Virgin Mother, the whole heavenly court, and all those here present and to you , Reverend Father (Provincial, Rector, etc.) representing the Superior General of the Society of Jesus and his successors and holding the place of God, perpetual poverty, chastity and obedience; and, in conformity with it, special care for the instruction of children, according to the manner of living contained in the apostolic letters of the Society of Jesus and its Constitutions.
I further promise a special obedience to the Sovereign Pontiff in regard to the missions according to the same apostolic letters and Constitutions.
Place (name), in the Church of (name), on the date of (date)
(Signatures of the one making vows and the one receiving them).
Visit the website for the Society of Jesus in America.
The main source of the current wave of Anti-Catholic bigotry and fake Jesuit conspiracies.
The main source of ant-catholic lies comes from Jack T. Chick’s religious tracts. Chick Tracts are passed around by poorly educated, and unlearned, evangelical protestants.
In the early 80’s, many Christian, bookstores stopped selling his tracts, and he withdrew from the Christian Bookseller’s Association, after they considered expelling him for being a bigot.
Chick is something of shady character that lives in seclusion. He hasn’t given a professional interview since 1975 and there are no known photographs of him.
The source of Jack Chicks information, about the Catholic Church, was Alberto Rivera. Rivera, who arrest warrants, in Spain, for “swindles and cheats,” in New Jersey, and Florida for bad checks, and fraud.
Rivera, the character ‘Alberto,’ in the Chick Tracts, claimed to have been a Jesuit priest, who had to escape the Jesuit Order. Rivera claimed that his mission, as a Jesuit priest, was to infiltrate, and destroy protestant churches. He also claimed to have rescued his sister, who was near death, from a convent.
There are no records that Rivera had ever been in a seminary, or was ever a priest. Records show that Rivera only had one sister, who lived in London, and was never a nun. One of Rivera’s, most insane claims is that the Jesuit Order founded the religion of Islam. Never mind that Islam was founded in the 7th century, and the Jesuit Order in the 16th century. People actually call in to talk shows and post this on internet forums.
Rivera claimed to have three doctorate degrees, a requirement for Jesuit priests, which he later had to admit, came from a Colorado diploma mill.
These two charlatans, Chick, and Rivera, are the two main reasons, that modern protestants, run around looking for Jesuit boogey men, under their beds.
Lunatic Conspiracy Nut in Action
A group, known as We Are Change, is a group of activists, often known as “Truthers.” Most of the time they do a pretty good job “confronting” political figures on issues. They, typically, come from the political left, but are even handed, in my view, of asking the tough questions of politicians, the the Mainstream Media fails to do.
Unfortunately, because she didn’t do her homework, this woman, from We Are Change L.A., has put egg on her face. I hope you take the time to watch this on You Tube and read the information in the side bar. These lunatics actually believe that the Fr. General, of the society of Jesus, is “the most powerful man on earth.”
We Are Change LA Confronts the Black Pope
Now, Fr. Nicolas, answered truthfully about, the nick name, the Black Pope. It is not a real title, it is a familiar term, not to be taken seriously. Does Fr. Nicolas hang out at the Vatican? Could be, but so do the heads of other religious orders, like the Dominicans, the Franciscans, and so on. I would like to point out that Church detractors often criticize the church for being a hierarchy, and Fr. Nicolas isn’t even a Bishop.
Usually,at this point, and I get tired of it, some, unlearned Protestant, will tell me, in their arrogance, how ignorant I am.
“The High Oath of the Jesuit Order”
This women, asserts, in the video side bar, that the Vatican, has been denying the existence of this blood oath for decades. Two words; duh, huh. I wrote, the vows, for the Jesuit Order, back up at the top, you may want to refer back to them for a moment.
What the activist, in the video, is reading from, is actually in the Congressional record; US House Congressional Record, 1913, page 3216. It is a blood oath that has also been attributed to the Knights of Columbus by anti-catholic bigots. I will post a link so that you can read both of the blood oaths. Parts of these same oaths have also been attributed to Jews, by anti-Semites.
Had any of these “Truthers” done their homework, they would find, in the Congressional Record, the retraction of the fake blood oaths, because they are a fraud. See House Report 62-1523 of 1913, reprinted in the Congressional Record for Feb. 15, 1913, at, pp, 3215-3220. You can look it up in any law library.
The problem is; how did these fake oaths get into the Congressional Record?
Easy enough, a campaign staffer, attached it to some other documents that were put into the Congressional Record. It was during a heated contest for a congressional seat, in a Pennsylvania district. The contestants were a Republican Quaker, and a Democrat Catholic.
You can read all the details at; (includes the complete oaths)
The Evangelization Station, The Jesuit Oath Debunked
Now, if you really are a Truther, and would like to spread the truth. You can download a nice pamphlet debunking the fake Jesuit Oath.
Twice today, and many times before, I have asked this question on internet forums; Is it ever a sin, in Protestantism, to slander, and bear false witness?
I have yet to receive a single answer.
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Well I DO my homework, and I have found Doc to be very thorough in his research and right on the money in his videos. I post videos on viewpoints that I may not necessarily agree with on everything, sometimes my mind isnt made up on the issue. We cannot always agree on every single point, that goes without saying.
But to pull out someone just for the point of slandering their name tells me much about you. Your truth is not the only viewpoint, I see you lean particular ways, but if someone differs on your viewpoint you have bad things to say.
I have seen people with your viewpoints to be quite unyielding to anyone outside their beliefs. So be it. But in your sludge campaign, remember, you arent helping anyone with your rigidness, you turn them away.
Okay now, here you are telling alie. Because what Doc said to me is the the Pope, or one of his represetitives, is at everyone of their [NWO] meetings. That is a damned lie.
Every Bildergerg meeting. I have links to The Trilateral Commission, and CFR, websites on the left side of the page. Everyone that goes in and out of those meeting are none.
I have ponted out in other blogs a number of people and groups that do a good job researching, But thier reseach stops when it comes to tellin lies about the Pope. Real hard core bigots do that.
As for me being unyielding;, I am, unyielding, to liars, and bigots.
Now, can you answer the question, that I asked, at the end of this blog?
Alright, now I have to correct myself, the quote was “The Pope is sitting in the U.N.”
The Vatican, which is a nation sate, because Napoleon, was stealing church property. To protect the Church, the Vatican was made a nation state.
The Vatican has an observer, with no voting authority, at the UN.
So what?